Allied Pilots Association president Keith Wilson has been on the job a little over two weeks and on Thursday he faced the media for the first time, talking about the possible rejection of the pilots contract by a bankruptcy judge and how American Airlines has halted negotiations with the union since August 15.
During an hour-long session with reporters, Wilson said he met with AMR chief executive Tom Horton last week to discuss the union's concerns and willingness to try to reach a new contract with American while the carrier is in bankruptcy.
He also said he met with US Airways chief executive Doug Parker and president Scott Kirby, who have publicly stated they may launch a possible takeover bid of AMR. However, he confirmed that US Airways stopped talking with the APA on Monday as he assumed the Tempe-based carrier may be close to signing a non-disclosure agreement with AMR that would prohibit US Airways from directly negotiating with American labor unions while the two carriers shared financial information prior to a possible deal.
Here's a few tidbits from Wilson's media interview.
Excerpts from Wilson's opening statement
"The main thing we’re trying to do is to ensure the
professional value and that our skills are appropriately compensate and valued
by our employer. That’s our main goal is to ensure the quality of work life and
the profession as we know it. I stepped up basically for that reason…
"The union and the pilots believe that we are all in search
of a consensual deal with American Airlines, there are issues that we have, the
pilots want recognized, American has their issues and we’ll explore trying to
find a mutually satisfying solution to both sides. It’s in our best interest
it’s in the management’s best interest. It’s in the shareholders or
stakeholders, not the shareholders right now, the stakeholders of the
corporation that a consensual, mutual agreement is signed by the pilot force
prior to exiting bankruptcy. We do not believe that the corporation can
successfully exit bankruptcy while they might be able to exit bankruptcy
without a contract, we do not believe it will be a successful exit because we
will be back under the railway labor act and the uncertainty of that probably
doesn’t bode well for investor confidence going forward…
"To reach a consensual agreement I think it’s important that
management values the training and the services and skills that we provide to
the corporation. And as evidenced by the value put on United and Delta and
Southwest and other major carriers that we compete against. And on that same
vein one of the issues that we believe as an association and as pilots in general, size
does matter in the aviation business and a consolidated airline coming out of bankruptcy
will be much stronger and much more highly competitive with the two major carriers
that are left standing outside of us with United and Delta flying
international."
Can you get a deal
with the current AMR management?
"I do believe that we can reach an agreement, I won’t put a
number on that. I think we need to reach an agreement. I think the company
needs to start to understand value versus pricing and the value of what we
bring to the corporation in our training and our skills. And if they look
outside, they’ll see that other corporations when they do value that get an
intangible return in the product that the pilots and the flight attendants and
the TWU mechanics and ground people give the corporation. You can look no
further than across town to Southwest and how that culture breeds a very good
product."
Why do you want to
conduct a strike vote?
"The strike vote is one of our legal mechanisms and I look at
it, the strike vote will tell the world and tell the corporation exactly where
the pilots’ mentality is. That we are unified and steadfast in our belief and
it’s a vote. The board of directors and we will not strike unless we’re legally
allowed to strike. I’ll make that perfectly clear. The association will do and
investigate all legal avenues that we have available. One of those legal
avenues is the ability to maybe help influence consolidation through whatever
airline."
How would you
describe your leadership style?
"My method is one of, as my mother says, you’re always the
prototypical middle child. I’m always trying to find solutions to things. So I
will try to hear both sides of the argument. Our argument is what we’re
passionate about which is the value and respect for the skills and experience
we bring to the corporation. I understand on the outside that external factors
always influence corporations so things have to be adjusted….I think the path
is one of trying to listen and from my standpoint to look at the arguments from
a logical, objective thought and develop a consensus. We believe the
corporation has not been fully engaged up until recently. And whether they are
still engaged now because they have the avenue of the 1113, they haven’t
reengaged us after the 15th of August…So it’s going to take both
sides to have the ability to look at each others argument and try to figure out
some common ground. So that’s what I’m hoping to do."
Why do you believe that if the judge rejects your contract
that American should implement the last-best-final-offer and not the term
sheets filed with the court earlier this year?
"The issue is what do they need to successfully reorganize. And
they’ve proven through the negotiation that they were willing, therefore their
needs were met, by the terms under the LBFO, the last best final offer. So our
position, and I think rightfully so, from a union position, if that’s all you
needed and I use this term with my daughter, there’s a difference between a
need and a want. And there’s a need that the corporation might have and we recognize
some of that and we’re willing to talk about those. The wants are something
that we believe border on punitive....We understand there are needs in every negotiation, we have
our needs. And we have wants and I understand there’s a difference. And we have
to understand where each side is coming from. We can’t impose our wants upon
the corporation. They can and that’s where the perception would be one of
punitive."
Do you believe that American can emerge from bankruptcy
successfully?
"I think this company will come out as a viable and vibrant
company. We hope that the corporation sees that bigger is better in this
environment, that to have three major network airlines surviving, we’d like to
be one of those survivors. I think that’s important. They’re the management
team of the corporation and they’ll make those decisions and hopefully we can
reach a consensual agreement and we can then look forward to working with the
management of the corporation at that time to ensure it’s a viable and vibrant
corporation. Again, the pilots of this association are married to this
corporation for the rest of our careers, without question."
-Andrea Ahles